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A public hanging in Iran

Postby Hando_ on 2005-03-17 Thu 09:25:35

By ALI AKBAR DAREINI
Associated Press Writer

March 16, 2005.


PAKDASHT, Iran -- A young man convicted of raping and murdering 16 boys was lashed 100 times, and then hanged Wednesday in front of a large, angry crowd who pelted him with stones and scuffled with police.

Mohammed Bijeh, 23, confessed in court to raping and murdering the children, between March and September 2004. Iranian media have said Bijeh burned the bodies of his victims, all boys between 8 and 15.

Bijeh was sentenced to one death sentence for each murder he confessed and 100 lashes of the whip for the rapes.

An accomplice, Ali Gholampour, was acquitted of involvement in the murders but was convicted of taking part in some of the kidnappings, to which he confessed. He was sentenced to 15 years in prison and 100 lashes.

Bijeh's verdict was carried out in Pakdasht, a small, impoverished town about 19 miles southeast of Tehran, after being upheld by the Supreme Court. It was the same town where the murders took place.

Approximately 5,000 spectators -- including women and children -- gathered to watch the flogging and hanging. Riot police circled the area.

Some in the crowd threw stones at Bijeh as he was flogged, shirtless and hands tied to an iron pole. He fell to his knees three times as he received the lashes.

A relative of one of the victims broke police security and attacked Bijeh with a knife, wounding his back before police dragged him away.

After the flogging, a rope was put around Bijeh's neck and attached to a hook on a crane. The crane's arm jerked upward and Bijeh's body dangled, drawing applause from the crowd.

Some people burst into tears, crying out the names of their injured children. Some shouted, "Shame on you, Bijeh!"

After about 20 minutes, the body was lowered and a doctor confirmed Bijeh was dead.

Many in the crowd, some of them other family members of the victims, repeatedly tried to approach Bijeh's body but were prevented by riot police. Scuffles continued for at least half an hour.

The case provoked national outrage in Iran. Sixteen police officers were reprimanded for dereliction of duty and the Interior Ministry criticized the police for failing to catch the suspects after the first crime.

Many of the people in Pakdasht supported the hanging.

"Public executions reduce the occurrence of offenses. Bijeh destroyed many families. He deserved more than death," said resident Zahra Khaleghi.

But Dariush Mehraban said public hangings only promote violence.

"Many criminals have been hanged, but offenses have never reduced. It's an ugly scene that a human being is hanged even if he has committed many crimes. Revenge is not the solution," said Merhraban, who watched the hanging.

Convicts are hanged in public in Iran only if a court deems that their offenses deeply affected public sentiment.

Iranian courts are controlled by hard-liners. Iranian reformists say public executions hurt the country's international image and reflect badly on Islam.
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The public stoning scene in Monty Python's "Life of Brian" this news brought up in my mind aside, what do you think about public executions?

Bijeh destroyed many families. He deserved more than death," said resident Zahra Khaleghi.


more than death???
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Postby PANIC on 2005-03-17 Thu 09:34:24

thats great! something I admire about those countries. I wish I could see kick fVckers and killers get the same treatman in Japan and the West.
I would more than happy be the hangman.
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Postby Heretic on 2005-03-17 Thu 10:15:10

When I was in Egypt, I saw a remarkable number of openly gay children running around. I found this out when I got cursed for playing soccer with them in the street. Later one of them asked if I like "bananas" and said I should cut my hair shorter and I eventually had to just cut and run. I remember thinking that there is something about Islamic culture that spawns a lot of homosexuality. This other guy I talked to was 26 years old and a virgin, and described what a pain in the ass it was to get a date (even one accompanied by an aunt of the female).

Anyway, it seems sick for a culture to produce these kinds of sick fvckers and then turn around and murder them in an equally sick way. Pretty fvcking foul, the whole affair.
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Postby Rodster on 2005-03-17 Thu 18:23:54

Just imagine if Ali Akbar joined the military and went up the ranks. Eventually he would be ADMIRAL AKBAR!
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Re: A public hanging in Iran

Postby ninja_k on 2005-03-17 Thu 18:43:19

victrola wrote:
Hando_ wrote:By ALI AKBAR DAREINI
Associated Press Writer


You have got to be kidding me. There's an AP reporter named Ali Akbar?

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Postby Rhialto on 2005-03-17 Thu 19:19:02

If you are going to have the death penalty, I think it is right and proper that it be as public as possible. Just as criminals should be made to see the consequences of their crimes, soiety should be made to see the consequences of its bloodthirst for revenge.

Further, I think the killing (or whatever they choose) should be done by the wronged party. The Taliban had the right ideas in some areas.

Because we all know that beyond a certain level, criminal penalties aren't about justice, but revenge. And revenge by proxy is not right. It shields the vengeful from the consequences of their actions.
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Postby Dr Strangegloves on 2005-03-17 Thu 21:25:51

Rodster wrote;
Just imagine if Ali Akbar joined the military and went up the ranks. Eventually he would be ADMIRAL AKBAR!

one of my fave quotes from the films....."we cannot repel firepower of that magnitude"
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Postby Britishchick on 2005-03-17 Thu 22:11:54

Comedian Denis Leary said it best when he said,


"I think Iraq and Iran should combine together and become Irate"


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Postby leighkun on 2005-03-18 Fri 00:33:21

i just wonder how many people it would stop from doing those same crimes.

How many public hangings do you think criminals go to??
What sort of crackpot genious thinks "hey, maybe i will rob the bank today, and go watch a hanging tomorrow"?

I think the only crowd it draws are people looking for revenge and sick bastards that probably have a bat over the hanging after and then go find a little boy.

I understand why they do it...
Just dont think it has the most desired effect
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Postby Dr Strangegloves on 2005-03-18 Fri 01:35:25

Heritic wrote:
When I was in Egypt, I saw a remarkable number of openly gay children running around. I found this out when I got cursed for playing soccer with them in the street. Later one of them asked if I like "bananas" and said I should cut my hair shorter and I eventually had to just cut and run. I remember thinking that there is something about Islamic culture that spawns a lot of homosexuality. This other guy I talked to was 26 years old and a virgin, and described what a pain in the ass it was to get a date (even one accompanied by an aunt of the female).

Anyway, it seems sick for a culture to produce these kinds of sick fvckers and then turn around and murder them in an equally sick way. Pretty fvcking foul, the whole affair.


Heretic - what did your post mean?
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Postby TheAllTimeJetMaestro on 2005-03-18 Fri 04:20:14

Although public executions may be gruesome and even viewed as barbaric, they work.

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Postby Rhialto on 2005-03-18 Fri 05:18:58

Executing a criminal, whether public in Iran, or behind closed doors as in the USA, has never been about justice. Excecution as a legally enforced resolution to a crime is almost entirely about revenge.

The reason so many people, Americans especially, are horrified by the idea of public executions for crimes is because it makes the revengeful nature of their own criminal justice system open to question, which makes them feel uneasy.

And it is always easier for a human to say "you're eeeevil" than it is to question their own long held set of morals.
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Postby Heretic on 2005-03-18 Fri 10:43:09

I said that culture produces sick behavior by creating lots of artifical barriers between the sexes. In the same way, the United States and its fundamental Christianity seems to spawn a lot of serial killers and rapists compared to primitive societies without Christianity and without taboos regarding nudity.

It is even sicker when this culture goes out and murders this guy in a public and discusting way. I blame the culture for creating the monster and then murdering the monster in a monsterous manner.

Also, Victrola makes the obvious point that if men can't even see women, or view them as potentially intimate human beings, you are going to have more homosexuality. Look at prisons and how much buttfvcking happens there. A typical man in an Islamic society sees as much female skin as a man in prison, so it is really surprising to see more homosexuality? And anyway, can you expect a man to love something that he is taught to treat as an object or even a devil? These guys are often taught that desire for a woman is really Satan trying to corrupt the soul.
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Postby jetlag on 2005-03-18 Fri 11:59:59

the United States and its fundamental Christianity seems to spawn a lot of serial killers and rapists compared to primitive societies without Christianity and without taboos regarding nudity

I am not certain that one can really argue this. Couldn't it be a case of lack of research? (For example, how it was believed that the pill caused ovarian cancer, but then it was realized that in the past ovarian cacner wasn't studied/diagnosed). Plus, population sizes, media access, etc. In the US, serial killers are considered very media sexy, but there aren't really all that many of them. Rapists are also media darlings but there are a f*** of them, sadly. Can you be specific about the societies you are referring to?
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Postby Krycek on 2005-03-18 Fri 12:02:52

the United States and its fundamental Christianity seems to spawn a lot of serial killers and rapists compared to primitive societies without Christianity and without taboos regarding nudity


It's hard to be a serial killer in a society of 13 people out in the bushes.
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Postby xtoddx on 2005-03-18 Fri 20:26:06

So, homosexuality is "sick behaviour," is it, Heretic?
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Postby Hando_ on 2005-03-18 Fri 20:37:40

Heretic isn't saying that. Here's a giant cotton bud to clear that shit out of your ears.
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Postby Heretic on 2005-03-19 Sat 10:08:26

Todd, shit man, I am on of the most pro-gay straight people on this discussion board.

Jetlag, this wasn't a scientific study; it was me traveling around a lot of different countries and observing certain differences between them.

Krycek, there are populations as large as 127 million that believe in animist religion. You happen to be living in one of them.
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