Do Vegans Swallow?

[Purin-kun]

I mean, semen is an animal product, right?

[CowsUdders]

I mean, semen is an animal product, right?

Its not only an animal product, it is animals (ableit, very small ones), so vegetarians shouldn't be swallowing either.

[J-dogg]

arent all vegetarians lesbians anyway?

[Futureal]

I think the objection vegans have to most animal products is that they are obtained through inhumane methods. Accordingly, semen, the most humanely produced product on the market, would probably find no objection from the vegan palate.

[genkigirl1]

Futreal, you have to be the most boring poster ever. Rip me apart for my Japanese but christ, you are boring.

arent all vegetarians lesbians anyway?

No. Most are wannabes who think that not eating meat makes you cool. Wait to you meet the "So how long have you not eaten meat" bitch. Always fun when you can say since 12. The look of bitchiness is great. I HATE those type. Japan seems to have many.

Waiting for the "Veggie" vs. Fish eaters to come post.

[Futureal]

It's not my standards you need to work on living up to.

On the subject of vegan snobbishness, it's definitely true that many vegetarians are simply pushed into it by the same social forces that make thousands of people worldwide profess to love Dimmu Borgir- the need to feel both accepted and exclusive at the same time - hence also the great debate over whether fish or honey are acceptable foodstuffs for a card-carrying vegetarian to consume. However, as one of the infinite things people do for purely social reasons later rationalized through backwards-working logic, vegetarianism is one of the least harmful.

[MightyAtom]

vegetarians are totally cool.

[wallesque]

Wait to[sic] you meet the "So how long have you not eaten meat" bitch. Always fun when you can say since 12. The look of bitchiness is great.

most of us can't say that without lying, and i'm sure it wouldn't give us the same superior feeling if we were lying.

[JessicaRabbit]

I've wondered that actually, and do they sit on leather sofas?

[magsyboy loves Tori]

I don't really understand vegetarianism...


BUT I said to a vege person "You arent saving the life of an animal by being a vege... you are just wasting the meat"

And she said "You can put what you want in your body, but I don't want that in mine!!"

So she felt kind of grossed out by having the meat of another animal inside her.
The thought kind of made me feel a bit queasy for a moment, and then I thought about Bacon and Steak, and started feeling hungry.

[Michael Dudikoff]

of course they swallow - how else do you think they get their protein?

[MightyAtom]

I don't really understand vegetarianism...

Its really easy to understand, actually.

No one eats 100% of edible things. Everyone, by virtue of culture, availablity, or personal taste, chooses to eat some things and not others.

Some people eat insects. Some don't. Some people eat goya, some don't. Some people eat mushrooms, some don't. Some people eat shark, some don't. Some people eat dog, some don't. Some people eat people, some don't.

Vegetarians are just people who put meat in the "don't" category, for a variety of reasons, including religious, ethical, health, tastes, etc...


See! Easy to understand!

[hamsterpanic]

I don't really understand vegetarianism...

Its really easy to understand, actually.

No one eats 100% of edible things. Everyone, by virtue of culture, availablity, or personal taste, chooses to eat some things and not others.

Some people eat insects. Some don't. Some people eat goya, some don't. Some people eat mushrooms, some don't. Some people eat shark, some don't. Some people eat dog, some don't. Some people eat people, some don't.

Vegetarians are just people who put meat in the "don't" category, for a variety of reasons, including religious, ethical, health, tastes, etc...


See! Easy to understand!

quiet, hippie.

[stampychan]

I think the objection vegans have to most animal products is that they are obtained through inhumane methods. Accordingly, semen, the most humanely produced product on the market, would probably find no objection from the vegan palate.

It had to be said sooner or later. They should start bottling it and selling it in little bottles alongside the "ethically sound" coffee.

Semen : the most humanely produced product on the market.

[Grumpy Old Gaijin]

I think the objection vegans have to most animal products is that they are obtained through inhumane methods. Accordingly, semen, the most humanely produced product on the market, would probably find no objection from the vegan palate.

Life begins at ejaculation!!!


Masturbation is murder!!!


Ho! Ho! Hey! Hey! How many sperm did you kill today?!! Ho! Ho! Hey! Hey!......

So she felt kind of grossed out by having the meat of another animal inside her.

That kinda grosses me out too.
(No matter how good it might feel.)

[Peril]

Seriously, dudes are always wacking off, lots of vegans in need of some nutrition. Surely a match made in heaven.

[Improbable]

BUT I said to a vege person "You arent saving the life of an animal by being a vege... you are just wasting the meat"

This is a very stupid thing to say.

[Grumpy Old Gaijin]

Life begins at ejaculation!!!

Masturbation is murder!!!

Ho! Ho! Hey! Hey! How many sperm did you kill today?!! Ho! Ho! Hey! Hey!......

Seriously though, sometimes I do feel a little guilty when I think of all those poor little bastards--like so many million fish cast up upon dry land--making the ultimate sacrifice for my selfish pleasure.

But then I remember the immortal words of Bill Cosby.

"I brought you into this world, and I'll take you out."

[Arachnoid]

No. Most are wannabes who think that not eating meat makes you cool. Wait to you meet the "So how long have you not eaten meat" bitch. Always fun when you can say since 12. The look of bitchiness is great. I HATE those type. Japan seems to have many.

I'd rather say I eat meat for every meal, and every time I meet a vegetarian, I make sure I have a double helping of meat every day for a week. There's nothing like chowing down on the muscles of a slain animal, so chewy and juicy, perhaps it was the animals arm before, or a leg. Nothing like tearing through its muscles with your teeth savouring the delicious flavour.

[CowsUdders]

Some people eat insects. Some don't.

I ate a fried insect that I purchased from a vendor on Jomtien beach in Thailand. I was slightly worried that it might upset my stomach, but 3 singhas had already been consumed by this point and so I thought that would have formed a protective lining around my stomach.

I was on the toilet for the next two days. Thai insects must be magic as this one I ate turned into about 20 litres of diarrhea inside my body.

[industry!]

she felt kind of grossed out by having the meat of another animal inside her.

that's not what she said last night!!! giggity!!

[MightyAtom]

I'd rather say I eat meat for every meal, and every time I meet a vegetarian, I make sure I have a double helping of meat every day for a week

Its so weird that you would think this actually bothers anyone...

Being a vegetarian is just something personal. I don't care about anyone else, nor does it bother me in the slightest to have people eat meat in front of me.

I have never understood why some people find it so offensive when you choose not to eat meat. I also don't eat mushrooms, 'cause I think they are nasty, so be sure to load up on extra portions of those to!

In fact, lets all tell Arachnoid what food we choose not to eat, so he can stuff himself full pounding down our portions in some sort of weird revenge-eating.

Arachnoid, I also don't eat poop. Go to town!

[Rudd-Crunch]

Oh, it does bother the particularly self righteous ones. Curiously, those are also the ones that it's aimed to annoy. Vegetarianism doesn't bother me in the slightest, but when somebody starts rubbing their "personal choice" in my face, then I feel obliged to rub my meat in theirs.

[MightyAtom]

Yeah, well self-righteous people the world over bother everyone. Same people that rub their religion or their sexuality in everyone's faces. And they deserve to have it rubbed back.

Just don't think everyone is the same...

And in the spirit of this thread, Arachnoid, I also don't eat semen. Looks like its "Over the lips and through the tounge, look out stomache, here it comes" for you! Line 'em up!

[Hyaku Shiki]

when somebody starts rubbing their "personal choice" in my face, then I feel obliged to rub my meat in theirs.

...anyway, vegan's cum supposedly tastes better, so they're probably quite fond of it with each another. Not that I would know about anything even remotely related to sex, of course.

[Johira]

No one eats 100% of edible things.

How do you explain the Chinese then?


Work your way out of that one, Rommel.

[Futureal]

Yeah, well self-righteous people the world over bother everyone. Same people that rub their religion or their sexuality in everyone's faces. And they deserve to have it rubbed back.

The problem lies in that many many people in the world believe the very existence of deviance rubs itself in their faces.

And also that mainstream beliefs are always being rubbed in people's faces, unconsciously. How out of breath would a homosexual vegetarian atheist be if he or she called people out every time they made overt straight/meat-eating/theist overtures?

[Johira]

The problem lies in that many many people in the world believe the very existence of deviance rubs itself in their faces.

I wouldn't be so quick to paint with the intolerance brush. There's a pretty logical reason for most people to react negatively to vegetarians, at least those who say they're in it for moral reasons.

For a vegetarian to say its immoral to eat meat, logically speaking then they must think that anyone who eats meat is immoral. Most people don't take too kindly to being told they're immoral, especially when what their doing is what the overwhelming majority of humans have been doing for thousands of years. I suspect most morality-vegetarians find it hard to express their view without making it sound like they condemn anyone who doesn't view things the same way.

It's kind of like religion, except religious people can express their beliefs positively or negatively. If you meet a religious person who says, "I believe in the salvation of Christ," or "I believe in submitting myself to Allah," the average person isn't going to take that as a threat (well, except for Americans hearing that bit about Allah, but I digress. ) But if a person says, "I'm a Christian because I believe not accepting his truth makes you a godless heathen sinner who's going to burn in hell," then they're going to put most people who don't agree with them off.

If the average moral-vegetarian expressed their belief positively, like, "I think its better if I eat as many fruits, vegetables, and grains as possible," hardly anyone would bat an eye at them. Most of us would applaud them.

This is not to say that all veges are bad and all meat eaters are good, just that the sword cuts both ways. One cannot blame intolerace exclusively for vegetarians not being popular. Of course, none of this applies to vegies who are in it because they don't like the taste of meat- I don't think I've ever heard anyone express a negative opinion about them.

[Futureal]

Of course, vegetarians in modern society often, at least in my experience, are largely motivated by what they see as inhumane practices in modern animal husbandry. Since those practices, which include more or less everything except for the simple facts of death and consumption, are innovations of the last couple centuries, the act of eating meat in a society like Japan's also segregates you from the vast majority of human history. One could venture a guess that a simple diet drawn from local sources, which by necessity would be mostly vegetarian, would be the closest to the one which our ancestors ate on the way from the savannahs to the cities.

On the morality standpoint, we agree. I've never pretended to be a vegetarian as a "personal choice"; I view it as something everyone who lives in similar circumstances to me should do, a very public choice, almost a policy. This makes some people react with hostility. In my mind though, other people's reactions to my beliefs are far less important to the internal veracity of those beliefs; hence, I don't care if I make people eating meat around me feel uncomfortable or not. I don't go out of my way to make vegetarianism the topic of conversation, more because it's not an effective way to win people over than because it's rude, but if self-appointed guardians of Traditional Eating make it so than I don't mind if they leave the table feeling a bit uncomfortable. And trust me, meat-eaters, emboldened by social inertia, are much bolder in the presentation of their dietary philosophy than vegetarians are.

[Johira]

On the morality standpoint, we agree. I've never pretended to be a vegetarian as a "personal choice"; I view it as something everyone who lives in similar circumstances to me should do, a very public choice, almost a policy. This makes some people react with hostility. In my mind though, other people's reactions to my beliefs are far less important to the internal veracity of those beliefs; hence, I don't care if I make people eating meat around me feel uncomfortable or not.

So you think disagreeing with your opinion is immoral ("something everyone must do"), and you do not care how anyone else would feel about that, and yet you still think that meat-eaters are the intolerant ones if they bristle at you labelling them thus?